hi BWAG I would like to thank you for your very good presentation meeting, which I attended, last night. I wish you every success, in your effort, to prevent this Wind 'farm' being built. Which would be clearly wrong. I was, however, dissapointed in your support for Offshore Wind Farms, possibly, not least, because I own a beach hut overlooking the offshore proposal, you seemed to be so keen to promote. You seem to thing this would be no problem to anyone (well, obviously, then. Wrong) You also used the same methods to promote Offshore Wind 'farms', as the developers themselves. Qouting maximum capacity figures, as if they represent the true capacity, (or anything like it) And even, qouting the energy output in 'numbers of houses they can supply' Despite the fact, that (you must be aware), they cannot supply bottom load energy to anyone! Please refere to J A Halkema's report 'Wind Energy: Facts and fiction' (a half truth is a whole lie)....particularly the section on Offshore energy. And miss information, using household supply figures. I would like to hear BWAGs defence, for this part of your presentation, which, otherwise, I could not fault.

Thank you Fenbeagle for your kind comments regarding our presentation.

In reply to the Offshore issue, in principle and on balance the offshore option is from the figures we have seen is more of a justifyable alternative to onshore turbines as a straight comparison.

However, I totally agree with you as far as the whole issue of whether or not a single wind turbine is the best option to generate renewable energy...

The real travesty in the renewable energy debate, is that the Wind Energy Industry which is so powerfully represented by the BWEA, has hijacked and plundered the resources which should be used to develop other

alternative technology. One of the statements I had prepared, which time constraints prevented me from pursuing

was that, there need to be a balanced energy policy and a more honest appraisal of the pros & cons..

Unfortuantly, as we are all painfully aware the failure over the last 10 years (in particular ) of this Goverment to produce such a policy has forced this ABSOLUTE MADNESS on all of us, as basically time has run out....

and if you go back over some of my previous posts I have mentioned this..

I hope that this in some way shows you where we are coming from.

I also strongly support the work the Renewable Energy Foundation are doing to highlight these issues, backed with reasoned research.. I do not profess to be an expert, but I understand commonsense and conversely when there is none...

I await any othe comments with interest

PS sign the Downing St petition if you havent already do so

Ok...some information for all the sceptics not loving the offshore placing for these turbines.

Following are direct quotes, if you want the site itself I'll post the address at the bottom of this blurb ;)

"Offshore wind energy has the added attraction that it has minimal environmental effects and, broadly speaking, the best resources are reasonably well located relative to the centres of electricity demand. Moreover, higher wind speeds at sea mean an increased energy production, as energy output is a function of the cube of the wind speed. Average offshore wind energy increase ranges from 10-20%."

"The environmental impact of offshore wind farms is considerably reduced compared with those onshore; both noise and visual impact are unlikely to be issues."

"Studies on existing projects have shown that some foundations can act as artificial reefs with a resultant increase in fish populations from the new food supply. It has been suggested that the noise from the turbine travel underwater and disturb sea life. Nonetheless ships, boats and engines have been a fact of life for over a hundred years."

"There are several factors which suggest the development of an offshore wind energy industry. The resource is extremely large, the energy costs, although initially higher than for onshore, are cheaper than other renewable technologies and the risks are low, as several demonstration projects elsewhere have shown."

"Siting wind turbines at sea will reduce the constraints that can be found on land, such as the visual impact and planning challenges."

"There is some scope for reversing the whole way we look at power supply, in its 24-hour, 7-day cycle, using peak load equipment simply to meet the daily peaks. Today's peak-load equipment could be used to some extent to provide infill capacity in a system relying heavily on renewables. The peak capacity would complement large-scale solar thermal and wind generation, providing power when they were unable to. Improved ability to predict the intermittent availability of wind enables better use of this resource. In Germany it is now possible to predict wind generation output with 90% certainty 24 hours ahead. This means that it is possible to deploy other plant more effectively so that the economic value of that wind contribution is greatly increased."

Er yeah...so offshore wind energy is pointless.

http://www.oceanenergycouncil.com/

I think , myself undesirable, describes it better.

I couldn't agree more. Yourself undesireable sums it up.