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John Marshall
Sun, 29 Jun 2008 11:51:00 GMT
Wind Energy Research

There is a good report in the Sunday Telegraph today, 29 Jun 2008, about research into the efficiency of wind farms, funded by the Renewable Energy Foundation, so that the result would be expected to say they were the way to go. Unfortunately for the Renewable Energy Foundation, the report says that wind energy is too inefficient for use in the UK and there would be a need for conventional generation to remain online as backup. This is the most wasteful way to run conventional power stations. The report also states that the number of wind turbines has been deliberately understated because their inherant inefficiency has been ignored. The number as stated by the government must be multiplied by three to make up for this. In fact all other research states efficiency as 20% so the number must be multiplied by 5! The report does not mention the problems of intermittant supply from wind turbines which was the cause of the massive power failure in Europe a couple of years ago, nor does it mention the extra billions needed to be spent to wire these things up to the present grid.

All this money would be better spent on clean burn coal and nuclear provision both of which provide energy at half the cost of wind. As customers we should be saying what system we want and at what cost. The Telegraph report states that these wind farm proposals would drive household costs up by another £260 per year. Given this I would expect the generator of choice to be clean burn coal, the cheapest, followed by nuclear. Wind would not come into it.

Laura
Fri, 11 Jul 2008 20:59:00 GMT
Re: Wind Energy Research

It's not hard to convince people who are against wind turbines that they are inefficient. The fact is, we need clean energy now, not 30 years in the future, and wind power can and must be part of the solution. The alternatives to halting climate change simply don't bear thinking about.

Melvin
Sat, 12 Jul 2008 15:15:00 GMT
Re: Wind Energy Research

Yes laura

We agree with your comments that is why we support renewables and in principle turbines can have a part to play.

Thats why we think the funding for the inefficent on shore scattering of turbines is not an ideal way of meeting this.

The off shore developments are far more cost effective in the long term and will make a greater contribution to helping to reduce Co2 emmissions. Plus more funding in to wave and solar technology which has less impact on local environments.

thank you for your contructive post.

Derek
Sat, 12 Jul 2008 18:00:00 GMT
Re: Wind Energy Research

Yes, if you bypass the fact they cost more to build and maintain, then off-shore IS more efficient...

wot on here again
Sun, 13 Jul 2008 21:24:00 GMT
Re: Wind Energy Research

Yes, if you bypass the fact they cost more to build and maintain, then off-shore IS more efficient...

--- Derek(guest) 

Yes derek even after these factors are taken into account they produce more energy in fact the current estimates are 7 times more....

Derek
Mon, 14 Jul 2008 09:30:00 GMT
Re: Wind Energy Research

Yes, if you bypass the fact they cost more to build and maintain, then off-shore IS more efficient...

--- Derek(guest) 

Yes derek even after these factors are taken into account they produce more energy in fact the current estimates are 7 times more....

--- wot on here again(guest) 

Ignoring the fact the Skegness ones don't. I'm not against off-shore, just can't see why you can't have a site here AS WELL!

mmm
Sat, 19 Jul 2008 21:27:00 GMT
Re: Wind Energy Research

no no no get it derek no

John Ward's Conscience
Wed, 20 Aug 2008 19:31:00 GMT
Re: Wind Energy Research

record...stuck...brain...shrivelling